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night at 8 on c-span's "q&a." >> next, a discussion on the debt ceiling and deficit reduction debate. this was part of a brookings institution forum on jobs and the economy. this panel is an hour or and 20 minutes -- an hour and 20 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> all right. should we get started again? um, i'm either using that vision, or that clock is way off. but i'll use my watch. okay. so if everybody could come in from coffee and sit down, we'll get started on our second panel. and we're delighted to welcome a really terrific set of panelists, lew kaden, vice chair of citi, maya macguineas who is now involved in or leading the fix the debt campaign. bob mcdonald who is the ceo and president of procter & gamble, and ralph schlosstein who's the ceo of ever corp.. so really a terrific group. let me just give a little bit of context, at least while everyone's filing into the room. i'm martin baily with the economic studies program at brookings. if we cast our minds back to the 1960s, the 1960s, obviously b, was a troubled decade politically, but economically growth was pretty
. we do have a structural budget deficit in the city. we need to deal with the short- term balancing of the budget in a way that does not decimate basic city services that people rely on but also to address our long term structural budget deficit. that means implementing budget reforms that will smooth out the budget process so that it is not a boom-bust process. that means reforming our pension and retiree system so that they are stable and do not drain the general fund. that is a big aspect of it. another huge issue is the deferred maintenance on our infrastructure. we have a lot of infrastructure that has been deteriorating because we have not maintained properly. that includes roads, sewer systems, muni. we need to be much more diligent about maintaining our infrastructure. some of the big citywide issues that impact the district include transportation. we had more muni service and some other districts. it is not always reliable. some of the major bus lines in the district are not reliable. we have major projects like the renovation of delores park. it is an opportunity to define
to get our debt, the gdp, our deficit to gdp, down around 3%, which is the basis of which all economists left, right, center, agree, are the areas which we really can begin to grow as a country. and also my grandfather used to say, with the grace of god and good will of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling, that we may very well be able to meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over ten years, and in the long-term deficit and put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today because, as important as they all are, today we have a more urgent and immediate call, and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics very well so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i might add, oui an incredible debt of gratitude to many of you at the head table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have absolutely unanimity in this ballroom, nor do we in anyway ballroom, but we all know, everyone
friend, and i am glad his dog made it through so he could be here. he is a deficit hawk. more important than that he is a thoughtful and conscious -- voice of a conscious for the senate throughout his term on fiscal responsibility. we worked together in a very effective way to try to bring some sort of bipartisan effort into the requirement that we do something about the debt. it was really, as was mentioned, an idea that we came up with on a long plane ride i think to central america to put together a commission that then threw into the simpson bowls proposal that has become the defining memo for the effort to try to get that is under control. bob zoellick is fond of quoting a friend of his, the foreign minister of australia. we met a few months ago who said to him the united states is one debt deal away from leading the world out of fiscal chaos and disruption. we are. we truly are. we are a nation on the brink of massive economic expansion. from the place that can't is from, north dakota, you see the change in the paradigm on energy. we will go from an important country to exporting.
trajectory, reduce the deficit. >> lagarde gave her view on thursday. she supported a 2% inflation target which abe asked the bank of japan to set. she said it's a good idea if the central bank can maintain its independence. more business news next hour. here is a check on markets once again. >>> japanese prime minister has conveyed his concern. the two leaders met in the thai capital of bangkok. abe touched on the issue of the senkaku islands in the east china sea. the islands are controlled by japan but claimed by china and taiwan. he said chinese ships repeatedly violated the waters around the island and the country's plane entered japanese air space last month. he say it's crucial to deal with the issues in accordance to law. she offered her understanding for japan's position. she said thailand will play a constructive role in improving relations with relevant nations. >>> diplomats have agreed to urge the un security council to punish north korea for its latest mission law firm. japan's lead envoy in the six-party talks on north korea's met his south korean counterpart in seoul on th
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. now, we had a start with the deficit reduction efforts. >> right. >> prior to that i thought the bowles simpson commission was a powerful response to what we could do about our own deficit. >> why do you think the president ignored that? i mean his own commission, he ignored it. why do you think he did that? >> i can't speak for the president charlie. >> why do you think it got no traction then? >> this is politics. this requires two parties -- you had the republican party had to concede something on the take side. the democrats had to concede something on the spending side. the way i saw it with the spending cuts that were in process already and with the growth in the economy, we needed 2 of the 4. it was pretty straightforward. tax increasing and spending. business people would get this deal done in an afternoon. this is what we do. >> maybe that's why ruth should go to washington. >> do you think bowles simpson is dead? will it ever come back? >> it's provided the energy of a we need bipartisan and both ingredients to make it work and we need sense of urgency because it's
don't get at military industry complex, and social insurance we're kidding ourselves, the deficits will grow. neil: then what. i don't see anything being done. >> i think that is why i say the budget is a doomsday machine, we face a permanent fiscal cliff of 8% gdp gap. i see a constant political battle, every year there will be a deb debt ceiling crisis. neil: what do you think of the president? >> you know you can't have a dictate adictatorship, you havea bad blow up in financial markets. neil: is that coming? >> i do think so, a blame bernanke more than anybody else for the mess, when he said you can borrow money for 3 years to pay federal deficit at 30 basis points that is a rounding error to congress ha is zero, why is anyone going to stand up to social insurance, military industrial complex, the subsidies this bill, 60 billion boondoggle they passed for relief, who'll stand up to that stuff, when the great man, and said i'll take care of it, i'll keep interest at rock bottom. i'll print the money, i'll buy the bond. until we have a house cleaning in the fed, until we get rid
to a republican president that then put everything on the credit cards, that blew up the debt and the deficit. and then we ended up with a near depression, a recession, and so clearly of course some spending was going to go up, but actually it's gone up slower in the obama administration than it did in either bush or the reagan administration. david: hold on a second congresswoman. i have to argue with that point. because we just put up the numbers. as i said the last three years of bush it went from 9 trillion to 10 trillion. the first three years of president obama it went from 10 trillion to 16 trillion. that's a huge increase. >> well, but this is not because of spending -- this is because the government has been spending to -- more people are on programs because of the unemployment etc., and so we have had a problem. i was on the simpson bowles commission. i actually introduced my own plan that did more deficit reduction, including, for example, creating a public option in healthcare that would save 104 billion dollars over ten years. so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that
the language and you have cultural deficits. it is almost impossible to develop the contextual understanding that you need. you have to understand if you're trying to impact a society. >> in other news, the militants said they have executed a french hostage captured in 2009. french armed forces tried to rescue him last saturday but failed. they executed him on wednesday evening and they say he was probably killed during the rescue attempt. the country now has a steady government. the united states recognizes them for the first time in 20 years pillar in -- 20 years. lance armstrong has been stripped of his mettle. the committee acted after the governing body found him guilty of systematic doping and stripped them of seven wins. there is speculation as to whether he will lead men to open or apologize. extremists are gaining ground militarily and they're also winning popular support. it has become increasingly powerful. the free syrian army is living in kidnapping. they met one of the leaders of the front and found this exclusive report. >> they are waiting for bread. eight hours. nothing is m
of woods yet. at this time the city does have a deficit, i believe it's been $129 million, but don't quote me on that. it's more than $100 million. and for this reason, the mayor has given direction to all of the different department heads that when we submit our budget, we need to include some budget reductions, approximately 1.5% per year. and so our office is cooperating, of course, with that citywide effort. during the budget season, our office also participates in capital planning for the really big projects, like new buildings or ada transition plan work for barrier-removal. and a little bit later in the meeting today, i have asked our deputy director for architectural access, john paul scott to give us a briefing on some of the big projects that he submitted for our capital planning budget. now i wanted to tell you about a couple special probings that our office worked on recently. we just finish a project to develop accessibility guidelines for park lifts. -- parklet. if you haven't seen a parklet, you should walk or drive down valencia street or hayes valley, because those are th
, derek? 850sextillion-dollars or something like that. >> which would put a little hole in the deficit. >> the administration does not support blowing up planets. why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a death star with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one- man star ship, doesn't make sense. so again going up to 100,000, but with the rate people are signing up for this thing, they could get to 100,000 pretty easy. >> i think the whole idea is they didn't count on the ease of signing with the world of the internet. >> it's participate -- it's participatory. >>> the department of environmental services says the a 30-inch culprit broke at the intersection of arlington boulevard and south irving earlier this week. there may be low water pressure between 6 and 9 p.m. the county has responded to breaks this week at stafford and 16th streets south and quincy and 13th streets south as well. >>> changing temperatures may have played a role in all those water breaks. how low will they go? topper has a check of our forecast from the weather terrace. >> with clear skies and
to get our debt to g.d.p., our deficit to g.d.p. down around 3%, which is the basis of all economists left, right and center all agree on the areas we can begin to grow as a country. and as my grandfather used to say with grace of god and goodwill of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a
. leading republicans are saying without a budget that includes a real plan to reduce the deficit, the nation faces the threat of a credit downgrade. bret? >> bret: mike, thank you. sticking with the tet and deficit issues, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are talking about what to do in a worse case scenario. the government not having enough money to pay its bills. chief political correspondent carl cameron reports on a possible short-term solution that is getting a long look by some people. >> with the white house refusing to negotiate spending cuts and the democrat controlled senate unlikely to pass a budget as part of a long-term deal to raise the tet ceiling, pat toomey of pennsylvania is reintroducing legislation he says will avert the u.s. from defaulting on the debt. >> we must prioritize three categories of payments. one would be debt service, interest on the debt so we would haven't default. a second would be social curt payment to seniors so they don't worry whether the check is coming or not. the third is pay for the active duty military personnel. >> the white hou
it was in '93 and we were talking about an omnibus spending bill. it was a deficit reduction bill but of course it was called the tax increase. and there were things in the bill that i liked and there were things in the bill i didn't like. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to deficit reduction. i didn't think it went far enough with regard to entitlements. so i was a no vote, and i walked into the house that night and the republicans were high-fiving saying they don't have the votes and the democrats were figuring out how they could switch their votes and i said wait a minute, we came in with this president in '92, it was the largest class of women, there were 21 new women, 24 democrats. and the president was on the phone, and he said what would it take? and i said a serious discussion about entitlements, further cuts, and i'll only be your last vote because there had only been two -- in the house as you know, a tie vote goes down. >> sure. >> so i said i'd only be your 218th vote and there had been two votes i knew like this in history. one for the impeachment of andrew johnson and
money on the movie theater. >> it is nice but nothing compared to the 45.$8 million deficit this city is running. when they filed for bankruptcy they had wanted to $50,000 in the citibank account. john: the politician said we did not see it coming. they owed 46 million with panetta thousand of the bank? >> they're required to put 1.8 million dollars per month into koppers. john: they tried to raise money through fees like expensive parking tickets. >> i paid $500. >> but he was going 90 in the school's own. john: with that does not cover the pension obligations. >> not sandy know, vallejo, a compton, a stockton or any of their city. they are failing. john: i hear there is more civil society? volunteers working in the animal shelter, park maintenance, a neighborhood watch is starting to blossom? >> bay plant their city back. they take it themselves. so the private solution is always better. john: that is where you go when the government spends of the many. next we take this problem and see what it does to the whole state. it is not pretty. you know how to mix business... with business.
there is a third phase here they consider country on a path that will allow us to get our debt to gdp, deficit to gdp down around 3%, which is all economists are training center greer that areas we can begin to cruise the country and as my grandfather used to say that the grace of god and goodwill of the neighbors, between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling, we may very well be able to meet the goal we set out to do, which is to have roughly $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and put us on that past. i didn't come here to talk about any of this important subjects today because as important as they all are today we have a mortgage and indie media call and that is how to do with the epidemic of gun violence in america. the one of the statistics better than anyone, so i'm not going to repeat it. on that score i might add ale in a credible threat of gratitude to many of you at the table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity and this ballroom, nor do we have any ballroom, but we all know, it wanted knowledges we have to do some gain. we
for the legislative battle. it will be over debt, deficit, gun control immigration reform leading the organization will be jim macina who will take over the cash of 5.3 million and use it for discreet coalition of the policy battles. it is the most sophisticated in modern times in the use of multi targeting data. vice president giend who hazel lewded to a presidential run of his own spoke about a grass-roots approach in his announcement yesterday as conference as mayor. >> we are going to take this fight to the halls of congress. we are going to take it beyond that. we are going to go to the country making our case and let the voices, the voice of american people to be heard. >> it will be separate from the democratic national committee. the white house dmc chair debbie watson schultz. describes her as an obama outsider who never enjoyed a close relationship with the president. >> isn't that the question you would love to be asked what are you going to do with the leftover 5.3 million? >> i don't anticipate that in my life. >> a too bad hopefully you share the wealth. >> dumped several inches of s
began the fiscal year with $876.05 in the bank and a projected deficit of $500 million, even after taxes had been increased. i think a number of you remember that as well. working with the legislature, we ended last fiscal year with a $500 million ending balance, a billion dollar swing to the good and we paid off all of our callable bonds. good job, legislature. [applause] we are now in a strong fiscal position. the last decade was unfortunately a lost decade where kansas lost thousands of private sector jobs while the rest of america grew. in december 2010, our unemployment rate was 7%. today our state's unemployment rate is 5.4%, the 10th lowest in america, and wichita state university projects we will add more than 24,000 private sector jobs in the state this year alone. that's good news. [applause] when i started as governor, we had the highest state income tax in the region, now we have the 2nd lowest and i want us to take it to zero. look out texas, here comes kansas. [applause] in the previous decade, we had population losses of more than ten% in nearly half of our counties. today
challenges and budget deficits and we need to expand our tax base and we need to take advantage of what's happening right now. >> reporter: exactly how we take advantage is ripe for debate. but, most agree better education and visas for the scientists we train in the u.s. is a good start. and, remember what i.b.m.'s myerson said about continuity: it's just as important to a country, as it is to a company. >> the moment you believe there is no danger of losing your edge is when it disappears on you. >> reporter: suzanne pratt, "n.b.r.," at the watson research center. >> susie: be sure to join us on monday for our special edition on american innovation. that's it for us this friday evening. have a great weekend everyone. you, too, tom. >> tom: goodnight, susie. we'll see you online at nbr.com and back here monday night. captioning sponsored by wpbt captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
on the movie theater. >> it is nice but nothing compared to the 45.$8 million deficit this city is running. when they filed for bankruptcy they had wanted to $50,000 in the citibank account. john: the politician said we did not see it coming. they owed 46 millionith panetta thousand of the bank? >> they're required to put 1.8 million dollars per month into koppers. john: they tried to raise money through fees like expensive parking tickets. >> i paid $500. >> but he was going 90 in the school's own. john: with that does not cover the pension obligations. >> not sandy know, vallejo, a compton, a stockton or any of their city. they are failing. john: i hear there is more civil society? volunteers working in the animal shelter, park maintenance, a neighborhood watch is starting to blossom? >> bay plant their city back. they take it themselves. so the private solution is always better. john: that is where you go when the government spends of the many. next we take this problem and see what it does to the whole state. it is not pretty and. john: california is paradise for government workers. he
and deficit under control. i talked to one key republican lawmaker who says there are three events coming that will coalesce. debt ceiling discussion, debt ceiling and the fact that the federal government will run out of money at the end of march. >> all those bring a confluence of an opportunity to drive a debate and drive changes that get us towards long-term prosperity and get us off of this notion that we can just continue to borrow and spend. >> reporter: it is clear most republicans want there to be spending cuts as part of these fiscal matters as they work on long-term extensions or solving these problems long term. jenna. jenna: mike, if we're hearing this, then the white house is probably hearing this as well. any reaction from the white house about potentially this plan from republicans? report or the jenna, --. >> reporter: jenna white house officials are saying if congress doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling they should authority rise president obama to do it himself. they should extend it so it doesn't cause concern for the economy and global markets. >> longstanding tradi
of pressure on the task force doing something and tax reform entitlement reform and cutting the deficit and debt. charles: when it hit an all-time high the dow at an all-time high under george bush the democrats said that was a reflection of rich americans. stuart: professional sports very big money. we have two names for you. lance armstrong of course and manti te'o. they could lose a ton of money. brian is on the radio right now but he will join us for special simulcast at 10:35 this morning. let's get to gun-control. here is what the president of the national rifle association said yesterday on "varney and company" in response to president obama's proposal. >> you have a president who is dedicated to achieving an ideological agenda and is willing to spend political capital to fight a fight against -- against public feeling and public attitudes that have been in place for many many years and to fight in spite of constitutional safeguards for those attitudes you have a real battle royal and that is what we're going to have in washington over the next few months because this president a
. by creating jobs we reduce the deficit. >> jennifer: i'm take taking it as an encouraging sign that the tea party can be moved by public voices. if they can be moved on the debt ceiling of all things, maybe they could be moved on guns. you wrote in the "huffington post," advocating reducing defense spending so you can spend more money and invest in the united states. the question is in the negotiations in congress over the spending do you see that happening? >> we've got to make it happen. again, it's got to be the voice of the american people that will make it happen. people don't realize that 60% of our discretionary money go to the defense. wewe need and want a strong defense, with you but quite frankly out dateed cold war-era weapons can be taken off the table. there are many, many ways we can save money with defense in our pentagon budget, and never even touch anything that would affect our troops and their benefits and their families or national defense. nothing is off of the table and we have to under that defense can't be off of the table. we have to keep defense on the table as par
've really got to do this. you were talking about debt and deficit and government spending 15, 20 years ago when nobody was that much focused on it in washington, but now they really are. here is a chance for you to take all you learned, what you learned on the way up, on the way down, in congress, in the governorship, and apply it to what is really the debate of our times. if you look, we're having a new fiscal crisis it seems every couple months. we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of the iceberg that is coming our way based on unbelievable demographics and unbelievably unsustainable government spending. what i want to do is take what i learned and hopefully apply it to again a great conundrum that now exists in washington, which is how do we get our financial house in order? >> i wish you all the very best. thank you for joining me again tonight. it's a pleasure to talk to you as it was last time. i genuinely wish you well. i'm glad you're making another go at this. good luck with it. >> i appreciate it, thanks. >>> a critic who says newtown changed ever
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to borrow money to make up the deficit, but only up to a certain limit. that's the debt ceiling. treasury does not make decisions about how the money is spent. they are simply empowered in this case to write the checks to pay the bills that are already incurred by your democratically elected congress. the way you would if you are a little short on your monthly bills. refinancing a little bit. that will get us through maybe mid-february to early march. once that stops working, the treasury needs to rely on the cash that it has on hand and the revenue that comes in from taxes. problem is, there isn't that much cash on hand or enough money coming in on most days to cover the expenses. if there were, we wouldn't have a deficit. let me give you an example. february 15th. i choose that day because that might be the day. might be a little early but it might be the day that we stop being able to mess things around. okay. the federal government on that day will take in an estimated $9 billion in revenues. again, that is mostly taxes. on the same day, $52 million will need to be paid out. we've got
deficit. >> "the suze orman show" airs saturday night at 9:00 p.m. and 12:00 a.m. but you already knew that. >> we're taking a walk on the wild side with patrick monihan. >> no, kate, don't do it. . good morning, i'm meteorologist crystal egg erwith the weather channel. let's get your forecast through the weekend and for much of next week. one thing you'll notice, no rain, no snow on the map across the southeast. our storm is quickly moving out. winter storm iago coming to an end. that means the sun is returning finally after a lot of gloomy days in th southeast. our focus will shift across the great lakes and the high plains, areas with lake effects snow and much colder air coming into the northern states by the end of the weekend. 43 in chicago today. not too bad. in fact getting up to 54 in atlanta with sunshine. not a terrible friday. could be a lot worse. temperatures are coming back closer to average now. we'll have really warm weather in the southwest. about 75 for you in phoenix, 72 in los angeles. chicago enjoy those temps in the 40s because eventually this cold air makes it i
our debt to g.d.p., our deficit to g.d.p. down around 3%, which is the basis of all economists left, right and center all agree on the areas we can begin to grow as a country. and as my grandfather used to say with grace of god and goodwill of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is
of the great issues that the country is facing. >> right. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest. >> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in politics. that is the other big change. i mean, we're told here two things. one is the one with the most money gets the most votes and, number two, you should be spending 30 hours a week in fund raising and call time dialing for dollars. >> let me stop you there. you're told to spend -- this is on your side they want you to spend 30 hours a week making phone calls for raising money? >> yes. for money. and, you know, i'm not going to do that. i haven't done that. i'm here to govern. but the fact is my last election contest years ago i think i spent like $250,000.
of the tax code hasn't happened since 1986 when the political system was much less polarized. but deficit hawks insist a big deal, a so-called grand bargain is critical for jumping starting u.s. economic growth. >> we've got to reform the tax code and probably raise more revenues than we have and importantly we have to focus on controlling spending and reforming our entitlements which are right now unsustainable. delaying all of this is irresponsible. >> reporter: hard choices ahead whether the congress and the president can come together remains to be seen. christine romans, cnn, new york. >>> and, remember, you can catch a special inauguration coverage right here on cnn live coverage begins on sunday. continuing into monday. our mornings begin at 9:00 a.m. eastern. don't miss it. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and th
cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in history, more democrats in congress than any other time in the 20th century except for roosevelt and told the people, we have got six months because i'm going to be asking democrats to make a lot of sacrifices that may hurt them back in their home states and willing to do that for six months and then start rebelling. he was absolutely right because if you think of the big things in the great society, voting rights, medicare, the other stuff, most of that was done during johnson's first six months and turned out to be prophetic and a fair warning. >> yeah, no. 1966 midterms, 46-seat landslide for republicans. great example there. >> absol
, of course, paul krugman reiterated that deficits are actually not bad, especially when you're in a recessionary environment and that we've actually cut a lot out of the spending. but my concern in all this, while $2.4 trillion is a lot of money to cut over ten years, i'm still concerned about the absolute amount of the debt outstanding which is $16.4 trillion because we've been getting a big break in recent years because the fed has kept interest rates so low. when those interest rates start ticking up, as they would when they end their quaun at this taf easing program and as they would if we don't get the debt ceiling raised, then that cost of interest expense is going to go through the roof. we could be spending as much as $500 billion a year on interest expense alone and that is not a good thing. >> all right. nbc's luke russert and bill cohen -- william cohen, sorry. thank you so much for joining me. >>> next, we'll go to the bous for all of the last-minute detai details. for you... ♪white house for all of the last-minute details. inging the heartburn blues. hold on,
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